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CONTAINS SPOILERS!

 

 

But I'm sure most of you guys saw the movie.

 

 

 

 

Who do you think has the most brutal death? It could be anyone like random people or a Dinosaurus

 

 

To me its Zara why? because she fricken got peck by Pteronodons then got munch by Mosasaurus along with Pteronodon.

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Raptor-401
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Yes, I hate Saw movies. Just gross.

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@Something Real

No problem. :)

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Yes, if someone were to ask me what series of movies I absolutely hated, the Saw films would definitely rank high on that list.

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ALAN!-401 and DINOZILLA0439 - I am uncertain as to why people find enjoyment in watching films in which human beings are tortured and/or killed in monstrous ways. Perhaps it is an "acquired taste" - one that I have no desire to develop. :)

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I think you're all muy loco in the cabeza, in regards to those who are shocked that a horror film would -gasp- kill off a character.

I actually adore the scene, and find it horrifying in a beautiful way.

I love how this plays with your subconscious expectations in an almost Joe Dante-esque way (mainly reminds of the death of the black-haired camp counselor in Piranha). The pterodactyl isn't strong enough to carry an adult human and accidentally drops her into the mosasaurus tank. You immediately think "Oh she's dead", but the winged beasts suddenly pick her back up and stubbornly try to carry her, and from there, you have no idea what to expect. It's also a daring move to have such a grisly, brutal demise for who had been a sympathetic, put-upon character (especially from a series that once had the unwritten rule of "never let women or children become dino chow"), when audiences are accustomed to seeing only the jerks be devoured. 

We also need moments like this, of true horror, so we can truly understand what a monster the Indominus was and why it needed to be destroyed. Without little moments like this, we can't care as much. 

But clearly, Zara's death made all of you care. And for that reason as well, I find it to be an admirable scene. 

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@Kasey Kockroach

Jurassic World is not a horror film.

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Yes... Being as over-sympathetic as I am, I don't think I could even sit through a movie like that.

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I do hate movies like that. It's just unebelievably gross and how people just love it and find it very pleasing to the mind honestly baffle me...

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KASEY KOCKROACH - I understand and respect your viewpoint. However, your assertion hinges on the I-rex as its crux. The I-rex did not slay Zara. Had it been the direct reason behind that woman's death, I would certainly agree that the scene shows how horrible the I-rex is. Instead, the I-rex is only inadvertanly responsible for the events that led to Zara's demise.

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Jurassic World is Sci-FI Terror, not horror... Also why do you mix ENglish in Spanish, makes your first statement sound completely garbled.

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EVen then, it's just a movie... A Science FIction one... When you reall think about it I do not htink you should really feel that sad for a ficitonal character...

EXCEPT for when the dog dies. Don't kill the dog... The tears roll in on me...

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Jurassic Park has always had elements of horror, though they remain 'action-adventure' overall. This one, if anything, has those elements more prominently than before, with the increasingly disturbing and unsettling presence of Indominus, who's further and further established throughout as being less of an animal and more of a monster that directly and indirectly causes every death in the film (the pterodactyls were in a panic, mosasaur was merely hungry, and the raptors downright had an emotional turmoil going on).

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@Something Real and Raptor-401

Glad to hear I'm not the only one! And yes, I agree, I don't understand how people can enjoy it, it's horrible.

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Jurassic World did not horrify anyone I know. Horror is meant to well, horrify people. And Jurassic Park never horrified me, even in the "scariest parts".

 

Seriously though, HOW DO PEOPLE ENJOY SAW MOVIES!?!?!?

 

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KASEY KOCKROACH - You make a very compelling case for your assertion. Let us examine it in greater detail. Your argument is that the Indominous Rex's presence within the film entitled a certain amount of horror. I agree. However, the velociraptors in Jurassic Park also increased the dread and suspense to a large degree - one that (in my opinion) far exceeded that presented by the I-rex in Jurassic World. Zara's death felt almsot exploitative - viciousness for its own sake.

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There is no true horror to Saw. Cringing, which I suppose in some way can be related to fear, but they're still pretty artless with no underlying purpose to their gruesomeness beyond making audiences recoil in revulsion (though I have been told the first Saw film isn't that bad). 

The (apparently infamous as far as I've witnessed, and I've been quite fascinated) death being discussed here is quite different in execution. It's DELIBERATELY brutal, and very intentionally horrifying, certainly among the strongest moments of such in the film. You're SUPPOSED to sympathize and relate to the poor woman's undeserved predicament, just as the poor woman in the opening of Jaws didn't deserve her fate. Indominus indirectly caused this by scaring away the pterodactyls and causing them to have a massive panic, the winged beasts clearly scared out of their minds and acting more out of that than any real aggression. In a way, I sympathize with them as much as I do for the humans being terrorized. 

As for the first film's raptors, they remain animals lashing out and attacking out of natural instinct. The series has always presented the dinosaurs as animals, not monsters who seek and kill for pleasure. Even the spinosaurus can be seen as being very territorial. 

 

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I think Jurassic World did that not really to horrify audiences but to just simply scare them a little bit and show them a possible outcome of what would happen if or when man tries to control and trap nature, eventually the consequences becoming cruel and taking the innocent out with it.

 

EVen then, for all we know this could have been a mean lady, what if she was rude? The point is, there is not much to know about her as if she was really "innocent", just a little thought of mine I wanted to put out there.

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I gather she was indeed a bit cold, but then, so was Claire at first. I had gotten the understated impression she was devoted to her work in a way that left her as emotionally surpressed as her boss. She was understandably annoyed at having to babysit her boss' nephews, but she clearly sounded distraught when they went missing. The boys were upset that their aunt had pretty much emotionally abandoned them at first, and took it out their emotional frustrations on their babysitter. 

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Well the babysitter could have been freaking out since she was probably thinking that she might be losing her job if she can't find the kids she is supposed to be taking care of.

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KASEY KOCKROACH - This is a most engaging conversation! I believe it could be argued that the woman presented in Jaws directly shows the monstrous nature of the shark itself. On the other hand, Zara is killed in a fashion that only depicts the choas that ensues due to the I-rex's rampage. The pteranodons and other winged reptiles are not panicking at the point in which they descend upon the crowds in which Zara is standing; they are actively hunting - otherwise, they would have simply flown on in terror to evade the creature that had inadvertantly set them loose. The value of Zara's death felt inconsequential within the scheme of the film; an arbitrary throw-in that was added to produce shock. Indeed, I sympathized with her plight - but it did not move me to feel disdain toward the film's villain. It only left me thinking "why?". This, in my opinion, is not of value to the film. Had the filmmakers desired for me to feel anger for the I-rex's rampage, they should have had it slay Zara. As it stands, we have only cause and effect; nothing stimulating or emotionally rivetting. Intellectual honesty demands a certain amount of leeway; there is no mistake with regards to that sentiment. However, I can not shake this underlying sense that Zara's death was a sideshow attraction.

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@Raptor-401

Maybe, but I just didn't feel like that was what the movie was trying to give off.

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In the long run, I'm only expressing my personal view and don't really see myself as being 'correct'. I watch B-monster movies more often than I probably should, so I'm aware I'm desensitized to things like this scene, of which is indeed QUITE mild compared to what I've witnessed in other films (many far more deserving of backlash than this). 

Really, my main point is honestly...what's the big deal? Someone got eaten in a Jurassic Park movie? Stop the presses!

I also must honestly express...I think it's only controversial because it's a woman involved, she wasn't established as a complete jerk, and she was played by an actress who, from what I've seen, has a following. I truly don't think we'd be nearly as shocked if it was, say, a fat drunken man going through that. :P

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